Stacey: It made me very conscious of the fact that the stigma of debt precludes women and people of color in particular from striving, and it gave me the space to say, “You can do this anyway.” If I have to be the poster child for why indebtedness is not a disqualifier, I’m okay with that.Ĭlick above to hear more - including our conversation with Abigail Disney, about why no one should have a private jet. 19 and discussed several topics, including abortion. Molly: How would you say that having debt has affected the choices you’ve made? Stacey Abrams, the Democratic candidate for Georgia governor, appeared on MSNBC’s Morning Joe on Oct. And while I knew I didn’t agree with it, it still doesn’t make it less embarrassing, and there’s a bit of shame attached to it. There was this greatness to debt for some, but for the rest of us it was stigma and it was an invalidator. Whereas we were in the process of being governed by a man who called himself the king of debt. People who’ve known me my whole life, especially my political life, said, “Well, you shouldn’t run for governor, because they’re going to find out you don’t have money and you have these debts.” My answer was, “You think I’m not worthy of this job that you’ve pushed me to run for years because I have credit-card debt and tax debt?” I was being encouraged by those who knew that it was going to come up. I didn’t talk about my family and their financial needs. I reached this moment where all of that was undone, not because I’d suddenly become a bad person, but because circumstances had coalitioned against me.īut it was also embarrassing, because these are things I’d been able to take care of quietly. 9 min A teenage Stacey Abrams and a friend were watching the movie Dirty Dancing when the other girl asked the future Georgia gubernatorial candidate what she thought about a character’s. Stacey: It’s horrible, because I had worked hard to climb out, and to be stable, and to be able to take care of myself and my family - to be able to fill out an application, and if I needed to request credit, I would get it. That meant that I had to report that I had tax debt and credit-card debt, as well as owing a lot of people for my education. Stacey Abrams: For me, I knew I had a long-term plan to pay it back, but under Georgia law, I had to report where I was at a certain point in time. Stacey Abrams is caught in a deepening storm after being photographed maskless amid a group of masked schoolchildren. So she could help take care of her parents - even if it meant taking on debt.īut when Stacey was running for governor of Georgia last year, she had to publicly report her debt. Stacey Abrams grew up in a family her mother called “genteel poor,” and after law school, working as a tax attorney, she was making more money than anyone she knew. This week’s show is all about families and money - what we learn from watching our parents, and how those lessons shape our lives. You know, when you grow up with economic poverty, you have a great deal of opportunity to figure out that, while money is absolutely a real.
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